Rambling 301: Fall Guy Luigi and Cali Fires

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How are the California fires getting started? Who really is the Hitman Luigi? And are these two things in any way connected? The duo continue connecting the dots of the mysterious Rich Guy Eater and it might shockingly explain the growing California fires.

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  • the Victim, the Hitman and the Fall Guy
  • California Fires
  • Epstein’s List
  • Diddy’s List
  • The Desperate Rich
  • Bias Jurors
  • Evidence Destruction

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Rambling 301: Fall Guy Luigi and Cali Fires Cristina: Warning. This program contains strong themes meant for a mature audience. Discretion is advised. Jack: Going live in 5, 4. Cristina: What does live mean? Jack: Welcome to the Rambling Podcast. I'm your host, Jack. Cristina: And I'm your host, Cristina. Jack: And this is the show where we ground humanity's most absurd and baffling ideas. And today we're gonna have a bit of a continuation of conversation that we've been having the last couple of episodes. Because a pattern is starting to form, one that we have predicted in previous episodes in particular. The rich being eaten by the poor following Mr. Luigi's assassination of the insurance CEO. Cristina: You think that's continuing to happen all over? Jack: Yes, yes, I do. I think that all the things that have happened in recent weeks kind of follow that trend. And it's building up to be something quite interesting. I think desperation is showing in all the corners of all of the. I guess what of the country? Cristina: The U.S. what? Jack: The U.S. yes, the United States. Elsewhere too, but very, very prominently here in the United States. Anything that happens here will begin infect the rest of the world. That we, as we do on average, it always spreads out and starts to get to other places. Cristina: What crazy things have been happening besides like the fires in Cali? I think it's like the only big news. Jack: Well, we'll get to that eventually. But staying to the Luigi situation. The fact that they're trying to find a. They're trying to find jurors to convict the man. But the American law, which will not be violated. Because if they put anybody but jurors there, and if the jurors are anybody but the peers there, then they will prove the system was always fake, fictional, and only applies to the poor. That will be the loudest scream. And at that moment, there is no reason why poor people shouldn't break into every store, raid every single insurance building, and literally physically kill these people with their hands. It'd be no reason to, because we know you're only protecting the rich and you don't give a f*** about the poor. Right now what they're trying to do is get jurors to convict Luigi. But because jurors have to be peers. They have to be a jury of your peers. And people who are peers to somebody like Luigi also have gotten monumentally f***** by car insurance, house insurance, medical insurance. Insurance companies are a scam that the little guy deals with. And now you need to sit a group of peers who have been equally f***** to then say he's guilty about what he did, when in reality. Cristina: But he definitely 100. Jack: He totally is except in the screening process that they're doing to sit the jurors. You always get to screen jurors. Nobody seems. They openly begin with I think he's innocent. So there are no jurors selected for this yet because. And there's gonna never be. Or you just. Eventually they just have to do it. And if they take him to prison without putting him through a trial, the system is going to implode and people will eat. The rich people will go to the f****** streets and they will stab the f*** out of every CEO. People are going to go to the f****** streets and start murdering the police that arrested him, the politicians that allowed a non. Like a non trial to happen. Like all of these situations that you'd have to violate the laws that you've told us for years that we must obey. And now we have a situation where obeying the law is gonna f*** the rich people. Cristina: But if they do get people to. Jack: Would never happen. It's not even an if. Every single juror that they have screened, they've had to dismiss without exception eventually have to sit people. You only have a certain. Every person only has a certain limit of individuals they can dismiss. So what do you do when everybody you sit there was f***** by the same insurance companies or same insurance scams to some degree. So this, there's no way this works in favor. So you gotta bend the law or break the law. But if you do that in this current situation, if you break the law to enforce the law, 00:05:00 Jack: it doesn't work. You're just gonna make. You're gonna make it so that the little guy instantaneously decides none of this is real. We can destroy everything and everyone that plays that game. Cristina: That's crazy. Jack: Yeah, because it's. We don't do that under the assumption that to some degree it works. But that is genuinely why the poor don't eat the rich. They believe it's the. The whiniest of the poor complaining about the most corrupt of the rich. But if the government itself gets involved and says, well, you don't need a jury of peers because they're all going to let you go and based on that you're not going to have one. Well, now you've broken the law. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And now it means nobody ever has to go to jury again. Jury is you just make us go there and then you don't pay anybody legitimate income for being there to just get that. That's another part. You're trying to convince these people to go be a juror and not go to work, and you're not going to pay them a realistic amount of money for being there. So they're just losing out on paychecks. Cristina: Inherently, it's a very strange system. Jack: It's a very strange system in favor of the politicians and the CEOs. But right now you got to convince the people you're robbing of money to sit there. To then sit there and say, the guy who did what they all wish they could do because of how corrupt the system is should go to jail. You're trying to convince those people that you're actively. By sitting there to side with you instead of the guy who did what they all think was awesome. Cristina: But, like, all I need is people to say he did it. Jack: Yes. Everybody needs to agree. If a single person doesn't agree, then the trial goes on indefinitely until everybody agrees. There has to be no doubt in the jurors one person could hold that b**** up. So what's gonna happen is the person who is most willing to hold that b**** up is gonna make everybody else cave in his favor. Even if they were gonna say he's guilty because they want to go home, they need money. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: You could hold it hostage by you saying, no, he's innocent. You couldn't convince me. And now what? Now we're here until I say he's guilty or until you guys say he's innocent. And I'm not going anywhere because we're getting equally f***** here. So until you guys get your heads out of your a**** and stop siding with the rich guy who's f****** you too. So all it takes is one of those guys. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And I guarantee you. Cristina: How long could this process take, though? Jack: Indefinitely. It could go on indefinitely until they agree. They have to agree, one side or the other. Indefinitely. There's no limit. Cristina: Whoa. But just to find these people. I guess there's a limit to that. Jack: Yes. There's a limit to how many people you can dismiss. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And they're hitting that limit. Cristina: Well. Jack: Which means this trial is going to go through with a jury of peers. And that jury of peers is gonna. There's no argument any insurance company can make in favor of the CEO or the company. There's no argument that the little guy will side with. Oh, you filthy rich f******. Yeah. This is why you needed more money. This is why you had to turn more people away. This is why the sick should have stayed sicker. What? How? How are you gonna convince them? So it's a definite poor eat rich situation where he's gonna go free. He's gonna go free. The guy who killed the CEO is gonna be back on the streets. Cristina: I don't know. That sounds kind of crazy. Jack: Nobody's gonna convict them. If are you gonna. Who the is gonna be the dumb judge to go ahead and override and say now he's guilty? Who? Cristina: There could be judges that do that, though. Jack: No one. That's illegal if it's with peers. And second, if there weren't jurors, how stupid could a judge be? That mean that makes you the next target. Use the target overnight. Now you just can't do anything. You need bodyguards, you need this, you need that. Because you're gonna be caught on the street because you're crooked for allowing crooked people to get away and heroes to go to prison. I'm sure it'll happen. Like this judge decides he goes to jail the next day. Documents of all that man's corruptions are just gonna be uploaded to the Internet. Racist things he's done for the same crime. Maybe a black guy got twice the sentence a white guy did for exactly the same thing. All of that is just gonna hit the Internet instantly, overnight. That judge is gonna resign and then not have judge protections. Oh, it's a domino effect. There's no way this is a stalemate for the rich people. Cristina: Are people waiting for this, this trial? Like, are people like. Jack: I bet. I don't know. Cristina: I don't. I guess there's. Jack: I don't really follow the interwebs so hard, but okay. Cristina: Because there's a lot of trials that have been famous and people just watch because, like, whatever the crime was or whatever the person was 00:10:00 Cristina: involved in and is this going to become that kind of situation? Jack: I think definitely. I think this is going to take the attention of everybody. I think this is. Again, it's going to be one of those situations. I. I truly believe this is going to be crazy. Advertising televised all over the place because. And that's the part that's going to horrify people. They could be like, we're not going to televise it, but there's obvious reasons for why they would not want to do that. And it's too obvious. So you guys give us celebrity trials. You guys give us this, you guys give us that. You were very loud about the President of the United States of America. You wanted all the cameras aim at that trial that should have been private and behind closed doors. Because the situation wasn't about his presidency. The situation was about personal life situations. They have no bearing on presidency. He gets a f*** who he Wants that is a grown a** man. What the f*** does that have to do with his political views? But you guys decided, including CEOs decided that that has to be in front of the people. Well, you really just wanted to distract people. That wasn't for legitimate reasons. You guys are prone to creating distractions and prone to. Well, you're probably signing hella bills in the background while they're looking at this. Okay, so now this is about something that directly affects people. On average, insurance issues. And one that people are very informed about because this made waves everywhere. Somebody shot a CEO. I dare them to not air this. And that not be what breaks it. I dare them. They would never not air it because they've made it so important to air useless s*** that now backtracking on that for this means you're scared that people are going to talk about it and make it worse. You're scared it's going to get worse. Cristina: And know what's going to happen then. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: Are they? Jack: It's going to be televised. The jurors are gonna set them free. People are gonna see that happen. And CEOs are f*****. It already happened. They removed photos from CEOs off of websites, they removed names, they removed these people who loved to flaunt how rich they are suddenly are okay with being absolutely private about how rich they are. Oh, suddenly just oh, we're not. I don't own the company. Everybody knows I own. My name is off of there. My picture is off of there. Nobody can find us. Wow. Cristina: Okay. Wow. Jack: I thought the attention was your game. Cristina: What? Jack: So I, I definitely think it's going to be televised. And I think it, I think it's. Cristina: Going to be suffering. Jack: I think it's going to be set free. It has to be a jury of his peers and at least one person there is going to be like, no, you can't convince me. Cristina: I guess that's possible. Yeah. Jack: Alternatively, hella CEOs are going to bribe all the jurors. Cristina: That is also possible. Jack: They all walk away. Filthy rich people are weak willed and for a little bit of money, yeah, sure, whatever. He's guilty. Cristina: But you think he's gonna be put away for a long time. Probably not even like he gets convicted. Jack: He would go away for life. Maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They'll figure it out. But there's no way you could do this and everybody not be like you guys did some sketchy in the background. There's no way this could turn out that the people aren't gonna freak the f*** out. There's no way. You guys created the problem. And if the problem goes away when. If it was a normal street person, the problem would never go away. No, no. You're showing your corruption from the top to the bottom. You will prove nothing works and it is all a lie. It would just be the proof. That's all you'd be offering. Cristina: Mm. Jack: That would be politicians offering the fact that. Yeah, no, we forgive all rich people. We don't forgive any poor people. Cristina: I mean, it's possible that. Because, like, what can we do if they did there. Jack: Oh, no, that's an easy one. They saw a street person kill a CEO on f****** video. Cristina: So you think more people are just gonna do the same? Jack: You tell me that man doesn't get like the. The hero in this story is the one who gets punished and a million more don't go out and do it. Cristina: I guess they don't want to do that. They don't want that to happen. Jack: It's a hard, hard situation for these CEOs. It is the moment of the poor eating the rich. Cristina: If they let that happen, they can't let that happen. Jack: Donald Trump has been elected president and he has hired an individual, Elon Musk, to start regulating government and start regulating government laws and individuals and outside companies that get touched, which includes insurance companies that have unnecessary levels of protection. Cristina: That's weird. Jack: All 00:15:00 Jack: of that is now under the supervision of a guy who believes all that s*** is crooked. Cristina: Under Elon Musk, though, Elon Musk is. Jack: Going to be regulating the government and how the government legislates according to its own need for money. He's regulating money. Cristina: That's not strange. That's a little strange. Jack: Why? That's I don't know. The CIA is strange, and that's a third party company the FBI estranged as a third party company. What's strange about hiring a third party company to regulate the amount of corrupted third party companies that exist? I guess if his job is to decrease the money and he does what he did with X, X only got better because all the sensitivity left. He fired 90% of the company to prove it's all DEI hires and the company is running better. That's kind of like overpowered. He plans to do that to the government. It's overinflated. You guys are too many and you're pocketing too much unnecessary amounts of corruption. Cristina: So you think it's mostly about firing people. Jack: He's probably gonna fire a s*** ton of people. Yes. There's a bunch of positions that don't even do Anything. This is people pocketing money in every possible facet, I guess. Like, if nothing ever gets done. If nothing ever gets done, why are they there? Cristina: I don't know. Yeah. Jack: Why are you pocketing money? You've been sitting in this office for 20 years. What's the difference between when you got here and now? Cristina: I'm not get away with it. Jack: Yeah. You got all the money in your pocket. So what. What the happens? Okay, you gotta go this person. Okay, yeah. They're actually trying to fix the streets, but they're being blocked by that a****** who wants to put money in his pocket. Fire the guy who's trying to put money in his pocket. Give this guy promotion so he can keep fixing streets. That's all he's gonna be doing. Cristina: I guess. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: That's awesome. Jack: And that involves interacting with insurance companies who have unnecessary protections to. F*** the little guy. Cristina: We should stop that. Jack: Mm. So he's gonna find out why. There are certain individuals who continue to legislate in favor of insurance companies. Obvious reason is they are invested in the insurance companies that are going to profit from those same legislations, of course. And they're going to remove those individuals, those people. That's why they tried so hard to get rid of Trump, because Trump is going to make sure and likely expose, not just fire them, but tell the world why they're getting fired. Cristina: This is part of cleaning out the swamp thing. Yes, it's continuing. Jack: And a bunch of people brainwashed on the left couldn't handle that because there it's against team. Team sports. And as you know, both sides are kind of dumb. They're sucked into team sports. People don't think anymore. There's no nuance. I'm either all blue or all red. And I do not agree with anything they say. Even if it made sense. And it's like, well, then you guys are idiots on both sides, which is the actual case. But outside of the stupidity of team politics and everybody who gets sucked in, they're proven they don't think at all. It seems like the swamp cleaning will in fact take place and it's not going to be in favor of the insurance companies or the politicians who are bending laws in order to make profit off of insurance companies. Cristina: It's taking too long for that stuff to happen. Jack: Why? Cristina: Why? Like, people have had a problem with the government forever. Jack: Like, right, it's the beginning of the year and this dude just got elected. Cristina: No, I mean, like in. Jack: Throughout history, government as led by the Democrats for the last many couple of years is nothing But a bunch of pocketing schemes and war funnels. Cristina: Oh, yeah. Jack: So like, it's all money into pocket and like, they have no reason to change any laws because they can keep funding wars and be supported by the Democrats. We're like, yeah, send more to Ukraine and. Yes, and more of us. He's more over there. More. It's like, God, bro. Guys, how are you gonna be like, stop funding Israel but keep funding Ukraine? This is so stupid. They're so dumb. Both sides. Because the other side's the same. The other side's like, stop funding Ukraine but keep funding Israel. They're the good guys. Like, okay, we're not for war, but we're for war. No, shut up. None of you think. None of you have thoughts. Cristina: We're not for that one. Or for this. Jack: Yeah, you guys don't have thoughts. You guys just. You parrot whatever the f*** your team says and you didn't think about it more than that. And then you go online and you freak out and you have these angry conversations about s*** you've never looked at based on some headline you read. It's ridiculous. A bunch of feedback loop nonsense. Bunch of idiots everywhere. Super stupid low IQ s***. Anyways, Luigi's gonna be free. That's likely. And if he's free, he's likely gonna go catch somebody else and that's gonna motivate other 00:20:00 Jack: individuals to do the same thing. Cristina: I can't imagine that that's the next thing. He's gonna be free and then he's gonna do it again. That's what you're saying? Jack: Not necessarily. Rather, his existence for being free will result in more CEOs being taken out. Cristina: Oh, okay. Yes. Jack: More people in these crooked power positions being taken out. On the flip side, if he gets convicted, I think that same outcome happens. Cristina: Yeah, it doesn't really matter whether he's here or not. Jack: I think that outcome happens quicker if he is convicted. They'll at least have a little buffer time before the next one. If he's free. Cristina: But now that it's possible, it has to happen again. Jack: We already know it's possible. And the desperate move. Had they not done this, it would have looked less bad. But the need to parade him around for no reason was so obviously a. Look, we caught him. Don't do it. Which is like, wow, you guys freaked the out. Somebody paid that governor to go stand next to that guy. And he was like, yeah, this makes sense for money. Because he wouldn't have done that otherwise. Why? Why would he do that? What reason is there for the governor, the mayor, whatever the f*** that was. To parade that guy around. That makes no sense. It's entirely a money thing. And, like, even walking him around, so many guards, so many, like, walking for cameras, photo ops, so people see he's caught. Cristina: That only helps. Jack: Yeah. You guys just clearly showed everybody you're desperate. And you guys feed on fear because you're human. So are the people you're feeding on. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And they've suddenly seen you really f****** scared. Not only that, you guys created the feedback loops that made them like that. You guys created the Facebooks and the Twitters you guys created the comment sections you get. Because it was money for you. It was more money for you. You and your buddies got money from these things to keep them raged in and freaking out and loving. So they grew up on that. They grew up on feeding off vanguard and fear and people sad and bothered. And now they saw you angry and fear and sad and bothered. Holy. You guys f***** up. You guys f***** up. You created a problem. Then you showed them you're. You're one of them. You're one of the people who could be picked on now. Cristina: Mm. And it's gonna happen again. It has to happen. It doesn't happen again. Doesn't matter what. What the results are. Jack: Nope. Has to happen again. Cristina: That's crazy. Jack: It's just the pace at which it's gonna happen. We saw the first instance of the poor eating the rich, and now we're seeing the slow snowball effect. Right now we're dealing with jurors and an inability to get seating jurors that seem unbiased because you made them all bias in favor of f*** insurance companies. You made them all. You made everybody in the United States who isn't a 1% individual biased towards insurance companies. 100%. Cristina: Yeah. Probably even people who are in working in insurance companies don't like insurance companies. Jack: 100. Because they themselves are probably not even getting quality insurance. Cristina: Exactly. Jack: So you turned everybody against insurance companies, and then you're going to try to convince people that the insurance company isn't the bad guy in a situation. You lost. You lost before it began. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: You lost before began. You dug that grave so deep. Cristina: Mm. Jack: That once you get pushed in, there's no chance you're climbing out. It's too f****** deep. You dug that f****** hole for, like, 40 years. Cristina: I don't know. It's tough, but, like, banks get away with anything and they still go. Jack: Right. Cristina: Like, why isn't this happening with them? Why is the way things are still the way things are for that because. Jack: People haven't been in. Again, the assumption that to some degree it still works. Cristina: Still works. Jack: To some degree, it still works. That is the assumption. To some degree, it still works. Doesn't matter what happens in this trial. They're gonna prove it was bullshit and made up and never worked. Cristina: Okay. Jack: It only works if you're rich. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Which means it doesn't work. You're just paying your way out of everything. Except you can't pay your way out of this one. Cristina: Lovely. Jack: So I think that's gonna go crazy now. Interesting things about Luigi. As we said, the courts can't seem to find jurors that aren't biased. They're all on the side of, I didn't see anything. And I think he was totally innocent. Must have been another guy or something along those lines. It wasn't him. Oh, that video. No, that doesn't look like him to me. So that's the unanimous problem they've got with jurors, which will very likely result in him going free. They can only do this for so long before you're 00:25:00 Jack: clearly breaking the law trying to find a different juror. Cristina: Okay. Jack: And a couple of things, right. We talked about the guy in the camera not looking like Luigi. Cristina: Yes. Jack: People have deep dived into this, that they look so different. They look so different. Face structure difference, height difference, shoulder difference. The guy they caught versus the guy who was in the video. The green and gray, they had totally different. They did not find the right guy. Cristina: But what about. Did he write about it or. No. Jack: Right. So he could scratch up a manifesto. Anybody could do that. And if it's not well developed, like, who cares? Anybody could write anything. And at this point, we're calling manifesto. And any idea he wrote on any surface or any technology slightly relative to what he did. If you made a f****** Facebook comment about doing this, that's his manifesto now. Cristina: Okay, you get my point. Jack: Like, what are we talking about? Manifesto. He had a notes app with five sentences. That's a manifesto. They're just saying that so it looks like that's the guy. Cristina: Okay, so that's part of that. Jack: Part of the brainwashing. Okay, it's not a manifesto. The guy jotted down a couple of thoughts. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: It wasn't like they're gonna find this and understand my motives. It's like, no, this is why I hate that guy at the end. Cristina: Okay. That guy specifically, or was it even about that guy? Was it just about insurance? Jack: It was just about insurance, but it doesn't even matter. Who the context of that in any manner, shape or form. Because it's not the guy. It's visibly not the guy. Who cares if he has anything written down, okay? He's not the guy. You could tell looking at them two entire. The guy who took the hit has no Latin visible roots. That was a white guy. Like a pure white guy. And I know people are like, oh, Italians are white. Shut the up. You guys are so ignorant. No, that's why we have two different words, Latino and Hispanic. And Latino are all from Latin descent, while Hispanics are from Spaniard descent. He is an Italian. Luigi, the guy caught is an Italian that is Latino. And you can tell he has Latin descent features, as most Latins do. Whether you're a Hispanic, whether you're Spanish, whether you're Portuguese, whether you're. There's a kind of resemblance going on that you're not, quote, white, unquote, you're Latin, okay? And the guy in the video was not. Cristina: He's just white. Jack: He's a white guy that was a visibly white guy. While the Luigi dude. Nah. So here are a couple of theories that have been circling around. And a couple of them kind of have some solidity to them, but we're not gonna talk about the solidity. We're just gonna talk about these theories, okay? So stay focused with me, please. First, the guy Luigi caught. Right, the guy who's caught. Cristina: Okay? Jack: Second, the guy in the video. And third, the guy who allegedly had the beef with the CEO. Now, the guy Luigi who was caught, did not have any accounts, did not have family members who had United Healthcare fully disconnected. There's didn't seem s*** other than the fact that he had a manifesto, because nothing he had matched. He doesn't match a guy in the video. All he had that connects him is essentially, quote, the manifesto, unquote. That's the connecting feature that says he's the guy who did it. Cristina: Okay? Because he said or he wrote one time I don't like. Jack: Yeah, because he had a notes app with insurance saying, I hate this guy. Cristina: Okay? Jack: So that's their connection. That's all. He's the guy based on that. There's no other proof literally connecting him. That's the only, only proof they have. You can look this up yourself. The only proof the government actually has, the only proof the police has, the only proof anybody has is the notes app. Outside of that, we're just trying to connect it to the guy in the video, okay? Now this falls perfectly in line with you guys. Never found them. You don't want the people to know that, though. You need the people to believe he got caught instantly. Let's follow this up with the fact that the first guy they caught, they immediately paraded without having to confirm more. Yeah, that is. Cristina: It's not what you do exactly. Jack: Kind of a quick coward is happening. You can tell the. And the pattern of that kind of tells you more. It feels less like it's him now that you guys did that. Your only proof is really his app because he had a quote, manifesto, unquote. But you didn't find the weapon. You didn't. You can't. He just looks like the guy. Cristina: Nothing. Jack: Nothing. Cristina: There's really nothing. Jack: There's nothing. Just the fact that 00:30:00 Jack: he confessed in that. Cristina: And he somewhat looks like this guy. Jack: No, he doesn't look anything. Cristina: Not even a tiny nothing. Jack: Nothing does not look anything like him. Cristina: Weird. Jack: Yes. So that's the guy caught. The guy who did the hit had a silence. The weapon, my dude, was smooth as anything. It was calculated, measured, soulless. Kind of like a professional. Cristina: Like a hired. Jack: Like a hired individual. Exactly. But if you hired an individual, you're also not catching him. That's how he's professional. Cristina: Yeah. Yeah. So even, like, even if you did catch that guy, you didn't really catch that guy. That guy. Jack: And then the fact again that the dude who was caught has no beef with United Healthcare. He couldn't. He has no connection to them. How do we have a guy who's clearly a hitman, not some random dude who got an emotional moment. No, this was methodically professional. And then a guy you caught who has no connection. And the closest you could get is he said things that sounded relative. Cristina: That's crazy. Jack: Enter the third guy, the guy with the problem. How do we get here? We have a dude who clearly has a massive issue and made actions happen. There is a dude who's responsible for paying the hitman and the hitman for paying the fall guy. Nobody caught the real guy. Cristina: Okay. Jack: You didn't catch the killer or the dude who hired him. You caught the guy who was paid to take the fall. Cristina: People think that he was paid by. Jack: That is an ongoing theory. Now here's. Here is the trick where it might get quite shaky. The line divides down the middle when we get to who paid the fall guy. Cristina: What do you mean? Jack: It likely wasn't the hitman because he would need his professional enough to just vanish. Wastes money on that. And it wasn't the guy who bought the hitman because you bought the guy. Cristina: Who'S gonna vanish is the insurance company. Jack: It was a f****** insurance company banding together and paying the most random guy that could come. Whoever looks most like him. Whoever looks most like him. We caught him. We caught him. You guys can't get away with it. He's caught. Look. Haha. And that's why he doesn't connect. And that's why the manifesto's so f****** loose. You guys couldn't connect. You couldn't find it. It was too clean. He popped up. Did the job. Disappeared. And then you relied on a random f****** tip. Allegedly. And then you caught some random guy. No. You guys paid whoever people thought already looked like him. You waited for the public to react. You found whoever looked like him. And you're like make your life so f****** easy. You just. Here's the story we're gonna go with. Cristina: Okay? Jack: All the money. We're filthy rich. We can make you a billionaire tomorrow between all of us. And not one of us took a single hit. You're rich like us. But we gotta show you as a criminal. We got to throw you in prison. You could get out. We'll send you to some other country. You disappear. But we got to go through this process. Cristina: Do we have to find out what happens to him after all this? Jack: If he goes to prison? How would we know that he's in prison? Cristina: Yeah. Jack: We'll probably throw him in some locked up little room that nobody can see. Allegedly. And he's out in a different country living the life. Because that's not the guy. That's not the guy. The people who can find. I will redirect everybody to how overpowered the Internet really is. Anybody who doesn't know about this. The FBI once tried to f*** with 4chan. 4chan. Random people, just random people hacked the FBI and acquired the most crooked files they could find. Posted some of it online. You could find this and warn the FBI. Leave us alone or it's all going up. The FBI has never since talked about 4chan. This is a fact. Go online. Look it up. This has nothing to do with opinion. You could find these cases happening. Cristina: So there are people online trying to figure out who the real person is responsible. Jack: True experts aren't the FBI. There aren't the CIA. How do we know there was coke inside the White House and it couldn't be found who did it? You guys are crooked. You guys are intentionally not telling us information. While people can hide something anywhere in the world within a couple of minutes. 4chan got there. 00:35:00 Jack: You can't hide anything. We got the best hackers we got the best meteorology. We got all the resources to undo any level of anything you could ever imagine doing politically, doing through government, doing through police, doing through any agency. 4chan has a better. And those are the guys, the guys who scare the FBI, the guys who can rat on anybody with proof who uploaded, the guys who take down the big kahunas. Those are the same experts who are saying, there's no way you could convince any of us that is him. Cristina: Okay? Jack: And they're showing image by image, breaking down face structures, breaking down face shape, eye shape, distance, eyebrow shape, every little bit. It doesn't match. It's not the same person. Cristina: So it's most likely just a person that knew the guy and just didn't like him. I hired a hitman. Like no one in a personal level. Jack: No, no, no, I don't think it's a personal level. I do believe somebody was affected negatively and was like, f*** that guy. I mean, it could be anybody. Could be anybody. We don't know. Yeah, there's some third individual we don't know about, responsible for hiring a legitimate professional who killed the CEO. We don't know who hired him, but it's unlikely either the hitman or he hired the fall guy. Because the point of the hitman is there's no need for a fall guy. Cristina: Okay. Jack: The question would just linger. Also, you guys can look online for this one. 97% of all murders go unsolved, usually when they're unprofessional. This guy showed an absurd level of professionalism. That guy's not getting caught. You guys don't catch regular killers. You're gonna catch a dude who does it for a living. That's a joke. So how did they so instantaneously find. Cristina: The guy, the right guy? Jack: You didn't know. You made it up. You made it up to trick people because you're f****** scared. Cristina: Because there's nothing else they can do. Jack: There's nothing else they can do. But in reacting, they made it worse. Yes, because you showed you're scared. And fear is what all humans feed on. You've just been the creator of fear, feeding off of it. Now you're the person in fear and the little guy is feeding off of it. Oh, and the little guy made the fear that they're feeding off of you. The tables have f****** turned. Interesting. So, yeah, that's what's going on there. There's three individuals. One is the fall guy, probably upon on the side of the insurance company is just taking the fall. Luigi is not to Be worshiped. Luigi is the guy on the bad side getting paid. I mean, whoever paid the hitman is the hero. Because the hitman also had no stake in anything. It was money. He wouldn't have done it without being paid. It was money. He has no stake in anything. His insurance is probably immaculate because he. Cristina: Can afford it, I guess. But like, the person who did it is probably no hero either. Like we. It's better not to know. Jack: Yeah, no, he's probably doing it for 100. It could definitely be a rich enough guy whose family was on the plan and got shafted and they died. And they're like this son of a. No, that I got so much money, let that guy die. So it could 100 have been one of his peers. We're like, God d***, this is crooked. Cristina: I don't think he, like, it's probably a crooked person who did it. I don't think a normal person would do that. That heroic thing. He's not a hero. He has to be someone who just didn't like this guy. It feels more like. Jack: Yeah, no, I'm not saying anybody did it to be a hero. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: No matter what it was because they were personally affected by him. Nobody is claiming some dude was just like, I gotta start saving the world from CEOs. That didn't happen. Cristina: No. Okay. Jack: Otherwise, why the. Are the rest of the CEOs alive? Guys, they're still out there, go do something. But it was somebody who's affected by the specific company that let it, you know, settle and brew and develop into a visceral hate. Cristina: Crazy. So crazy. But yeah, I guess that makes sense. He's probably not the guy. Jack: The guy who, who got the ball rolling is free and will likely depending on. I mean the. The tide. Not even the tide. The global sentiment changed a little. People are cheering on the death of CEOs now. This is normal. Now it's like, f*** the rich people turning into the fires. You mentioned earlier, the fires raging and people are looking at the area called Sylmar and like, oh, f***, these people are screwed. And you know, these poor people's houses are getting burned. And that sucks. Paris Hilton's house burned down. Oh, too bad for her. It enters the rich neighborhoods. Oh, I'm kind of struggling, feeling sad for these rich bastards who still had 00:40:00 Jack: water when the rest of us didn't. Quickly the sentiment went from the rich people, let them lose everything. Cristina: People are watching the fires and are cool with it. Jack: People are looking at the fires, hit rich areas and are like, well, I guess you Guys had it coming. These statements that have been being made are Saddam and Gomorrah, the biblical towns that God smit with fire for being cesspools of evil and corruption. That's what people are saying is happening right now. Saddam and Gamora, you guys are getting what was coming. Cristina: Ow. Okay. Because. But all the fires are in rich people places. There are people being affected, though. Normal people. Jack: Funny. No, funny fact. Every single fire was started at the very edge of a poor section where the wind is pushing it towards the rich section. So people in the poor side started it, you think knowing it would go that way? Cristina: No, that's. Jack: Every single fire. Every single fire, without exception, was started by a person. The four major fires, the Palisade fire, the eat in fire, the Hearst fire, and the sunset fire, all began on the front side of the wind, pushing it towards the richer side. Cristina: But that doesn't mean. Man, I don't know. That's kind of. That's. Jack: Additionally, every single one of the fires was too far to ignite each other, so they were all separate ignitions around exactly the same moment. Cristina: And that's not a thing that could happen in nature. Jack: It could happen in nature. Some of these started a couple of minutes from each other. Cristina: Okay, that does sound very planned. Jack: I don't know. Yeah. All on the same side of the draft. All on this. All on the same. Get the f*** out of here. All around the same, like a three hour period. Cristina: It feels like if they were planned, someone was really. Like, they had to know about the wind and stuff. Like, it was super planned out. It wasn't like. Jack: No. Cristina: A normal. Jack: No, no, no. Cristina: It wasn't random. Jack: Listen to me. Once a year, these wins come through. Oh. Every single year without fail. Cristina: Okay, so it's normal. It's an. Jack: It's an annual thing around the same time every year. Cristina: So all you had to do was be ready. Be ready? Yeah. Okay. Whoa. Jack: All you had to do was be ready. Cristina: What is that? Like, people think that they actually were started by other people. Jack: They've literally caught two different people starting fires. Cristina: That's crazy. Jack: Yeah. They're both arrested. Cristina: Well, yeah. Jack: Video. They were caught on video. Cristina: But doing the main fires, or these are just random other fires that are just now happening too. Jack: They were just starting fires and then they were caught doing it. Cristina: Okay, that is crazy. Yep. And it's just in Cali, though, right? Like. Jack: Yep. Jack: You see. You see the pattern, right? The snowball of the rich eating the rich is starting now. Cristina: Okay. Jack: Destroy all their s***. We're Gonna make them buy their s*** again and then we'll destroy their s*** again. And then when they buy their s*** again, we're gonna leave the country. Leave the country. You're not part of us. Get the f*** out of here. That's. We're gonna get there. That's gonna happen soon. We're gonna get to the point where we just keep trolling the rich out of the country so the middle class becomes rich. Cristina: That would be nice. But that's so crazy. I don't know. That's a hard one to believe. Jack: But it is. It is the reality at the moment. Cristina: Yeah. What? Jack: Yeah. And more so is the fact that the Palisades fire, right? That's the Pacific Palisades and Malibu. Big for politicians. That's where politicians live. All levels of political individuals. The eat in fire is in Altena and Pasadena, which is. Oh, my bad. That's the one that's big with politicians. The Palisades fire, which is in the Pacific Palisades in Malibu, that's big with CEOs. That's where the insurance individuals live. That's where the hedge fund guys live in Pacific Palisades in Malibu. So that's the Palisades fire. Then the E and fire in Altena and Pasadena. That's where the politicians hang out. So a bunch of politicians there. Fire went in that direction. And the sunset fire is the Hollywood Hills. Those are where the big music industry and celebrities live. Cristina: What? Yep. Jack: And then we have the hearse fire, which is the one that predominantly affected a poor area. Cristina: Okay, but. Okay, so that affected normal people. Jack: Yes, that one affected normal people. But that happens to be in an area where they've wanted to buy out the poor people to begin 00:45:00 Jack: with. And that's the one that a lot of people are like, this is E really similar to Hawaii. Why is the water off here? Cristina: The water. Jack: That's where the water was shut off. They're like, you guys really shut off the water in the middle of this fire. Very Hawaii. Now this is where the fires create an interesting division of situations because the fires all started in poor neighborhoods, towards rich neighborhoods. Is it the poor eating the rich like Luigi or. Let's go back to where these places are located. Pacific palisades in Malibu. CEOs, specifically insurance CEOs and hedge fund individuals. Jack: Interesting. Real close by. We have the Eaton fire, Altenia and Pasadena. Big with politicians. Okay. Just so happened to be. In both cases, the fire dominates areas where people were. Thank you 4chan, for all your information. Where people are really close Friends of Epstein. Second unrelated bit of information that I will share is the sunset fire on the Hollywood Hills is predominantly taking place around where people are known to have been close friends of or have been at Diddy parties. So was it the poor trying to eliminate the rich and even the tide? Or was it the rich trying to get rid of the evidence, knowing that the dominoes are falling? The rich, the list is coming one way or another. Cristina: I don't know. Jack: And now you have Trump and Elon Musk claiming we're gonna find it and release it no matter what it takes. Cristina: But if they burn down the evidence. Jack: There'S nothing to blame. Cristina: Yeah, that sounds most likely. Jack: It's more likely that these multi millionaires will sacrifice their existing property knowing they have more money in the bank then. Then a risk. Many years in prison. Cristina: That's crazy. But yeah, I think that might be more likely. Jack: And who would they pay? Most certainly somebody poor. Cristina: To start the fires. Jack: Somebody poor to go start the fire. Cristina: Yeah, that's probably not hard to do. Oh. Especially if they don't know what they're doing. What? Jack: But in either scenario, you're showing your f****** fear. In one, we're getting back at you, finally. In the other, you're scared. We're getting back at you, finally. There's no way around it. Every move that happens beyond seeing a CEO die is worse for all the rich people. It doesn't matter how the f*** they do it. If you guys started these fires, that's eventually coming out too. There's too many individuals. And as it gets a little more suspicious, you're gonna get the real intelligent individuals involved. The people who could find the flag in the middle of a random f****** country simply looking at the sky. Those people. Those people are looking in this direction now. What do you do when those people open their f****** mouth about what they find? Cristina: I can't wait. Jack: Interesting. And there's no amount of payoff. These people are rogue. These people are the kinds of individuals who. The who Alfred was talking about. Some men just want to watch the world burn. Cristina: Okay? Jack: And these guys, they're neutral party. They're neutral party enough to watch the world burn. Cristina: Crazy. Jack: That's why people get scared of places like 4chan. Cristina: You can't do anything about that. Jack: You can't stop a force that powerful. Cristina: Well, so we'll find out soon about what's really going on over there. Jack: Yeah. No matter what, the words are gonna come out. Somebody's gonna have the pro. Somebody's gonna put it in an indisputable Kind of way. And when that happens, it is f****** over. It's a snowball. And it continues to snowball. And it doesn't seem to be stopping. Every single day, the inch multiplies. So it began at one. The next day it's two. Perfectly fine. But the next day it's four. Still kind of slow. The next day is eight. It's picking up, but it's still slow. What happens at day 100? Oh, it doesn't stop. It's a snowball. The bigger the snowball, the more snow it can collect in a single rotation. So it gets bigger, faster. 00:50:00 Jack: So what do you do? Yep, Every single step. Why did you guys surround him? Why did you guys get politicians surrounding him? You made that too suspicious. People wanted to look at what's happening. People looked at what's happening and they're like, hold the up. This guy doesn't look the same. People started sending it to the right places. Hey, you dark individuals down there in the hole, we don't address because you guys are scary. Take a look at this. You guys never seem to be wrong. The dark spoke back and said, that's not the same guy. Well, interesting. The dark said, that's not the same guy. The dark has no stake in anything. They don't care. Leave us alone. And we're good. A question. And it was like, mirror, mirror on the wall, who the f*** is this guy? They were like, not the guy that they say he is. Well, interesting. Okay. Mirror, mirror on the wall had these fires get started. Well, they were all started in the down of where the draft was going. So it's gonna be taken up. Interesting. Fascinating little detail. Mirror, mirror, little by little, every move they make, points more at them. Cristina: Ridiculous. I don't get it. I don't get it. Especially though, turning off the water. Jack: It's an area they've wanted to turn into something like eat in. I mean like the Altena or Pasadena or Pacific Palisades. They wanted to upscale it, but it's a lower income area. What an opportunity. Cristina: Yes. Jack: That is actually interesting point that you would mention that that specific side with the poor people, weirdly enough, is the most important side here. That's the most. Because the other ones are just on point. It's too on the nose. It kind of like we have no information here. We don't know who did this. Could it be the poor attacking the rich? Could it? That's the one that tells us it's the rich doing it. Cristina: Yes. Jack: That's where they f***** up. That's where they F***** it up. Had they not hit that spot. Their greed got to them. Cristina: They revealed they hit it. But like the still. The whole water thing. Jack: No. No. Because it doesn't make any f****** sense. It doesn't make any f****** sense. All of them started down for this one. It also did. Cristina: Mm. Jack: That doesn't make any sense. You don't need to cut off the water for that immediately to be suspicious. Cristina: Mm. Jack: The fire started towards all of these rich areas. And in this one poor area that all those same rich a******* have been trying to buy out, the fire also started below. And it's the only area that the fire started at like that that isn't rich. And it's just so happens to be the one f****** spot they've all been trying to get. Cristina: Mm. That is very sus. Yeah. Jack: So all they happened with Sylmar is them out themselves. It's the cause the rich started it. Trying to delete all their data, trying to erase all their evidence. Cristina: Insane. Jack: Now we can throw away. This is the poor eating the rich for this fire instance. This is the rich getting desperate. Cristina: Mm. Jack: Because the dominoes are falling. Now the question is one of two things. Because again, everything splits down the middle. And again we're looking at the right people who know how to break this information apart. The theories that came up about this were actually really substantially good questions. Did the rich do it trying to cover up their tracks? Or did whoever. The individuals who actually. Who. Who are actually their bosses, the people who make them famous. The people who get them up there are like, we're gonna punish you guys for getting caught and cut that off so it doesn't come back to us. Because then people are gonna know who we are. Cristina: I don't know. That one mysterious. The one poor thing makes me think it's just the rich people. Jack: It could totally be. But the problem is the guy who runs them is still the rich people. And now your question has to be, would they destroy their own? Probably somebody punishing them is their boss. Like you guys are getting caught left and right. Nope. I'm not gonna be part of this. You it up. You're gonna get punished for it. Cristina: Okay. Jack: We know it's likely that not that the rich people themselves, but that their boss because of one f****** thing. The moment that the Diddy thing happened, they tried to connect the Epstein people to it. They're just trying to throw. Everybody looking at Diddy. Look at Diddy. Everybody look over there and leave us alone. Everybody keep looking at Diddy. Celebrities whole purpose in existence is to Distract people from 00:55:00 Jack: the CEOs and the politicians at this point. And they get paid knowing that's their f****** job. Your job is to cover up. And whatever the f*** happens, you're always going to be the COVID up. You're here to protect us. We'll make you famous because you want to be famous and because you're going to play ball. If you don't play ball, who gets famous? Nobody gets famous. If you don't play ball. Notoriously, you have to. But what ball are you playing? It's music. It's movies. What the f*** do you mean play ball? Who you playing ball for if you're all artists here? Oh, for the people who own the art companies. Yeah, the CEOs. For the people invested in the art companies. The politicians. Cristina: Crazy. Jack: Did he happens? Oh, the two lawyers are married now. Anybody who wasn't paying attention to Diddy. Oh, what are the odds? And now you got sucked into that side anyways. Tying random events so that you keep looking at Diddy so that you only look at the celebrities. That just makes the celebrities looks like their only job was ever to be a fall person. And you get to be famous. But if we ever ask you to fall, you have to. Cristina: Okay, does this make sense? Jack: Except somebody fall when they shouldn't have. Did he? He slipped. So we're gonna punish you. Extra. Extra. Anybody who can be outed because of you is also gonna be punished. Or the desperation of the f****** hit. We got to keep f****** throwing people in there. We got it. We can't bring attention to ourselves. Throw more noise at the Diddy situation. As loud as we possibly can. People looking too hard at a CEO getting shot by a random person. Cristina: There's too much happening. Jack: Too much happening. We're seeing it lose control. We're seeing people, the rich panic. Cristina: So then it is someone higher up doing all this. Jack: At least the dark holes with the information believe strongly it's leaning more in that favor. Okay, Whaat they believe it's leaning much more in favor of this is some. Cristina: Cleanup job or something. Jack: It's a cleanup job. It's a cleanup job. We're getting too close to revealing these lists. And now we just elected the guys who are going to do everything in their power to do that. Get rid of all the evidence. They straight up said they're gonna release all the information. Get rid of all the evidence. We're not connected to anything. Destroy everything. You can't find every shred of everything. Destroy it all. Destroy the house it happened in. Cristina: Okay? Jack: Everything goes no proof of anything. Cristina: Yeah. That's horrible. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. Jack: Desperate times are getting more desperate. The actions are looking more desperate. Either that or it is people, Civilians actively already attacking the rich. Cristina: That is one idea, I guess. Yeah. Jack: It seems less likely that sheep are going to try to attack a wolf. A lot of people have been brainwashed down into a really complacent spot in life where you're like, I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna risk me going to jail. That's. Which means somebody got paid to do this. How do you get paid to do this? Rich people paid you it. Cristina: That's the only way. That's really it. Jack: Yeah. Cristina: At the end of the day. Jack: And the rich people are doing it to cover their tracks. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: It's desperation. They're like, f*** all of Cali. There's nothing but poor people here. Anyways. F*** my house. I could buy another one anywhere. Dang it, Diddy Scott. I ain't hanging out with him anymore. Cristina: They probably start over. More than one house. Jack: Like, just go to the other one. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: It's safer to own property than it is to keep your money. They already separate their money into assets that they can liquidate at any given moment. Had they. If they needed more money. Can't be taxed on some s*** that isn't physical cash, man. Cristina: So most likely someone did this. Jack: Most likely. Several different civilians around the same time were all paid by rich individuals to destroy their homes through fires that would follow the draft and set ablaze to all the evidence that they were on that Epstein was close to them, that they were close to Epstein or that they were close to Diddy or any of that. It was those areas that were predominantly affected which is the sketchiest part of this whole. Cristina: Very sketchy. Jack: Very sketchy. Interesting note that. Cristina: That is pretty interesting. I don't know. I thought these are just fires or the aliens did it, but mostly just fires. Jack: Weirdly enough, the alien thing is a whole different mess that we're still unclear about. But somehow I am more convinced that also has to do with Luigi somehow. Cristina: Oh, my God. Jack: That's part of Luigi. Or the fire. All of this is one thing. Everything we're seeing is one thing occurring somehow. We just don't know how there's not coincidentally a thousand different. No, no, no, 01:00:00 Jack: no, no, no. Something weird is going on. And it's all one f****** thing. Cristina: And we're gonna figure that out. Jack: We're gonna figure that out. It's all one f****** thing. Cristina: All Right. Jack: We don't know how. No, because they're trying really hard to keep all the parts separate, but they keep slipping out. Cristina: Yes. Jack: And connecting random dots they didn't want people to see. Cristina: So I don't know. They still have such an advantage, but we'll see. Jack: They've never had an advantage, really. It just comes down to the fact that the people, like, real profound, hack through anything. Individuals, people, real skill, real talent. They don't care about other things. They're just. They love what they do. That's why they get as good at doing it as they get. So the people who can easily put a stop to them are not on their side or against them. They're neutral party, like, whatever. These are the same people who could just deposit a million dollars into their account off of anybody else's account. These aren't people who struggle in life. They're just bored and past time. But those are the right people to ask for information because they also love. Again, they love their job. They love what they do for fun. Cristina: It's not even a job. It's not even a job. Jack: It's for fun. Exactly. Well, I say the job because it's all they do. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: But they love what they do. Cristina: Yeah. Jack: The point that if you pose the question, you're gonna get the most honest, direct shot ever. And it's like, well, if we go through all our avenues and look at this from this light. From that light. From this angle. From that angle, this is what it looks like. Cristina: It's like, crazy. Jack: Thank you, you, you lovely skilled individuals, please dive deeper and reveal more. Cristina: Okay? Jack: And any of you 4chan individuals, I mean, anybody of you who are in here, you already know who I am over there. But any of you who haven't communicated with me because I don't necessarily post all the time. Good job. Cristina: Good job. Jack: And keep looking. Keep looking. I know where the real. I know we are the real people. Not saying I'm some crazy level hacker. I just hang out on 4chan, but I know that 4chan is the real people. Those are the people who could solve any problem or create any problem. That's what went FBI. That's when the FBI started getting handsy. They were like, hey, look what we found about you guys, okay? And they were like, oh, no, you guys are innocent. Never mind. You guys are innocent. Innocent. It's like, yeah, I thought we were. I thought we were. Now go away. Yes, gladly. Never again has the FBI bothered because that's. That's corruption. Cristina: Mm. Jack: But the problem is FBI in the pocket of a bunch of CEOs. So the FBI is coming down too. As everything starts to unravel and the snowball gets bigger, there are few things it's not gonna trample. Anyways, that's what I got. That's. Cristina: The week has been wild, I guess, or since the last time we've been here. Jack: Yeah, it's been heftily. Cristina: It's been an interesting start of the year. Jack: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I initially wanted to do a year, a review of last year, but the first week of this year has been so much we couldn't. So maybe next week, but we might not even get to that, depending what happens between now and then. Cristina: All right, well, because we're gonna be. Jack: Following this closely because this is spinning out of control and I want to be here for it. So if you guys want information on this, be sure to find us and contact us with anything else you found or any details you think we should give us information? Yeah, anything you find, let us know. We're going to be talking about it. We're going to be your news source for what's happening here. So you can find us, you can contact us, you can reach us on our socials. That's at just convo pod on Tick Tock, on X, on Instagram, on Facebook. Feel free to reach out and tell us what things you want us to look at. Cristina: Remember to subscribe, rate and review the show. Jack: And remember, word of mouth is the most overpowered thing in the world. And if you want people fully aware of the fact that the rich are slowly being eaten, we're the ones talking about it. Bring it this way. Tell them to come listen. Cristina: This has been the Rambling podcast. Take nothing personal and thanks for listening. Bye. Jack: Saba. Good morning. 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